Dani Pedrosa celaka di Motegi tahun 2010 dan Casey Stoner celaka di Suzuka tahun 2015 karena ada bug di sistem throttle by wire motor Honda


Saat mencoba menjawab pertanyaan pembaca di artikel sebelumnya, penulis menemukan informasi mengejutkan tentang bug dari throttle by wire di motor Honda bikin celaka. Pertanyaan diajukan di artikel berikut, dimana pembaca membantah kemungkinan celaka karena bug throttle by wire:
Kelemahan dari throttle by wire seperti yang diterapkan di new Honda CBR250 led

Karena penasaran, penulis mencoba mencari berita yang berhubungan dengan “by wire crash”, ketemu dua berita yang kebetulan dua duanya terjadi pada motor Honda yang pakai Throttle by Wire.
Beritanya sebagai berikut untuk Dani Pedrosa pada tahun 2010, motor Honda:
Throttle Glitch Cause Of Pedrosa’s Motegi Crash

Anyone seeing the crash by Dani Pedrosa at Motegi knew immediately that there was something very strange about the accident. The only footage of the crash is from the onboard camera, but the way the bike twitched as Pedrosa braked for Turn 9, the V Corner, was a sign that something was not right with the bike.

The problem, HRC revealed today, was a problem with the throttle. A malfunction with the fly-by-wire throttle caused the gas to stay open as Pedrosa braked, instead of shutting off, upsetting the balance of the bike under braking and causing Pedrosa to crash, fracturing his left collarbone in the process.

For Dovizioso’s team-mate, it was a much less happy day, Pedrosa falling early in the session and suffering a double fracture of the left collarbone which means the Spaniard is unfortunately out of the Grand Prix of Japan. The crash happened only five minutes into the session when the 25-year-old was still getting up to speed. As he began braking for tur n nine, he lost control and fell, with his left leg at first remaining under the bike as he slid into the gravel. The unlucky fall, just three laps into the session, was caused when a small problem with the throttle cable didn’t allow Pedrosa to close the throttle when he came to brake, an issue which has already been investigated and resolved. Pedrosa will return home to Spain tonight, with an operation scheduled for tomorrow to plate the fractured collarbone.

I tried to stop the bike as usual but I knew something was wrong and couldn’t avoid going down. After the crash I knew immediately that I was injured because it was very painful. I had a big impact in my left ankle and also my collarbone was broken as I hit the track – so obviously it feels very unlucky because recently we have had really good results.

Dikatakan Dani Pedrosa mengalami kecelakaan di Motegi karena sistem fly by wire (nama lain dari throttle by wire) di motornya tersangkut, dari yang harusnya mati malah tetap terbuka.

 

Yang berikut adalah Casey Stoner pada 2015, motor Honda:

Honda’s Nightmare: Stuck Throttle Injures Casey Stoner at Suzuka (with video)

Stoner was actually leading the race shortly after taking over from his teammate when his throttle stuck open, and he found himself headed for a wall. Stoner explains what happened next in the quote below, but the crash resulted in shoulder and ankle breaks.

With the complexity of modern racing computer-controlled systems (Stoner’s throttle was surely a ride-by-wire affair), I suppose it is surprising that these sort of things do not happen more often, but it is hard to imagine a more embarrassing outcome for Honda.

Together with HRC staff, the team checked the machine, and confirmed from the data that the throttle was 26 degrees open before the crash. It wasn’t clear why this happened and now the bike will be sent to HRC for a full inspection.

Unfortunately, we experienced some mechanical trouble as I was going through the corner leading up to the hairpin. In this corner I did not have enough time to pull the clutch and have another go at the turn as I came in with too much speed, I picked the bike up to try to slow down more but I was heading towards the wall so I decided to lay it over and hit the barrier but unfortunately, they were a lot harder than they looked and we came out of it with a broken bone in the ankle and broken scapular.

Dikatakan bahwa sebenarnya Stoner sedang melaju lancar di depan dan tiba tiba gas nya nyangkut dan motor jadi menabrak tembok. Dari data tercatat gas terbuka 26 derajat sesaat sebelum celaka.

Beberapa versi menyebutkan bahwa yang bikin tersangkut adalah kawat throttlenya. tidak jelas apakah CBR1000RR 2015 itu gas masih pakai kawat ataukah tbwnya memanfaatkan kawat untuk kendali dari motor servo ke bukaan throttle body. kalau cbr 1000cc saja masih pakai kawat maka implementasi di cbr 250 cc bisa dibilang termasuk percobaan.

Update, mungkin Honda CBR1000 cc memang tidak cocok di Suzuka 8 hour:
Tim Nicky Hayden Gagal Tuntaskan Suzuka 8 Hours Endurance 2016

NaikMotor – Nicky Hayden gagal menuntaskan balapan pada Suzuka 8 Hours Endurance 2016. Mengibarkan bendera Musashi RT Harc-Pro bersama VD Mark dan Takahashi mengalami masalah teknis pada Honda CBR1000RR di Sirkuit Suzuka, Minggu (31/7/2016).

Petaka itu terjadi pada lap 50 saat Hayden sedang menjadi pembalapnya. Padahal pada saat itu posisinya kedua dibelakang rider Yamaha Factory Racing. Tim Honda lainnya, TSR juga gagal melanjutkan balapan karena terjatuh, praktis Satu Hati Honda Team Asia yang masih bertahan.

Update: Sepertinya CBR1000RR 2015 versi road belum ada throttle by wire nya, sementara untuk balap dibolehkan ditambahkan throttle by wire:
SPECIAL DELIVERY | 2014 HONDA CBR1000RR SP ROAD TEST REVIEW

So it was a bit of surprise to see the CBR1000RR SP unveiled for 2014 and for a number of reasons. First, the SP isn’t really a homologation special; total production will number 5,000 units worldwide, far more than the mandated 1,500 minimum, and it doesn’t feature much of anything that will be of real use to professional race teams (especially a ride-by-wire throttle system, which luckily for the World Superbike PATA Honda team is allowed to be retro-fitted).

Manfaat throttle by wire di balapan terutama untuk mengatasi engine brake, berikut contoh dimana penerapan teknologi ini bisa membuat lap time 2 detik lebih cepat karena peningkatan grip saat di tikungan.
Throttle-by-wire is one of the keys to continued good health for racing motorcycles.

Here is a specific case: the adoption of throttle-by-wire on Chris Ulrich’s GEICO Motorcycle Honda CBR1000RR AMA Pro SuperBike. Before AMA Pro Racing finally consented to the use of an updated 2009 system, the Ulrich machine suffered the classic symptoms of braking instability. When the brakes went on and the rear wheel became light, engine braking from the one-liter four caused the rear tire to lose grip. As the bike angled over on turn entry, the rear tire would slide out as if the rider were playing with a thumb brake, 1995-style.

All this disappears when throttle-by-wire is adopted. With it, you write software that lifts the throttles (or some of them) just enough to cancel any desired fraction of engine braking. You don’t want to eliminate engine braking, you just don’t want the rear tire to hop, stutter, or slide out on corner entry.

What was the gain in the case of Ulrich’s Honda? I was told that once the unsatisfactory compromises were removed from the chassis setup (adopted to deal with engine braking conventionally), he was able to run as much as two seconds a lap quicker than before in testing. At Daytona this past weekend, Ulrich finished 13th and 10th, respectively, in the two SuperBike races.

 

Contoh kecelakaan diatas terjadi karena bug / glitch pada sistem throttle by wire buatan Honda. Peristiwa ini membuktikan bahwa gas dari sistem throttle by wire juga masih bisa tersangkut. Dan kalau gas tersangkut bisa bikin celaka tidak perduli itu masih pakai kabel sling atau sudah throttle by wire. Ini menjawab bantahan pembaca sebelumnya. Semoga motor Honda CBR250 yang dirilis barusan sudah bebas dari bug tersebut.

Kalau nemu berita lain tentang kecelakaan gara gara throttle by wire silahkan share. terima kasih.

17 respons untuk ‘Dani Pedrosa celaka di Motegi tahun 2010 dan Casey Stoner celaka di Suzuka tahun 2015 karena ada bug di sistem throttle by wire motor Honda

  1. Tehnologi memang berkembang pesat semoga bug-bug yang lalu sudah diperbaiki entah itu hardware atau softwarenya..
    btw saya juga belum merasakan tbw.. karena dirumah motor saya pakai kawat baja semua…
    tapi kalo ada rejeki saya ngebet banget sama cbr250rr
    xixixi..

    Suka

  2. foul kebanyakan karena TB tetap membuka (dengan perintah ecu) ketika mengerem untuk mengurangi engine brake (walaupun gas tangan sudah menutup). ketika terjadi fault disini maka terjadilah kecelakaan itu

    cbr250rr sepertinya belum memakai teknologi itu, dalam artian ecu tidak bisa membuka TB tanpa perintah dari gas tangan

    Suka

  3. seperti nya itu H*nda kurang matang dalam penelitian teknologi baru. kurang adanya uji ketahanan produk yg perlu waktu lama. sptnya memanfaatkan fanatiknya fbh untuk pengujian teknologi baru. spt kasus rem CBS yg banyak masalah fatal. …. apalagi TWB yg nyangkut nyawa manusia. Apalagi pemerintah kita buta dan masa bodoh dg recall produk. ……..

    Suka

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